“Perfect Picture Book” – Friday

Yay!  Perfect Picture Book is back and boy do I have some treats in store for you this year…..

The lines on Nana’s face

Written and Illustrated by: Simona Ciraolo

Published by: Flying Eye Books October 2016

Ages:   3 – 5 years

Theme: Wonder, Memory, Intergeneration

Opening Lines: Today is Nana’s birthday! I know she’s happy because she likes it when we are all together.

Synopsis:  It’s granny’s birthday, but her little granddaughter wonders why, because of the lines on her face, she looks so worried! But they are simply wrinkles, and grandma is very fond of her lines because they are where she keeps her memories.

Why I like this: I love this wrinkle in time story. This is a real treasure. When kids so often wonder at why when we get older more lines cross our face this beautiful story helps them see that they are merely wonders of times gone by. In each line this Nana tells her granddaughter of special moments she remembers from her childhood to present day. This is a heart-warming story, with soft colourful pencil and watercolour illustrations throughout.

Resources/Findings: The author’s website….     http://simonaciraolo.com/

I’m always pleased to be able to bring you some more special books that have come my way and be able to share them with you and join other great writers over at Susanna’s Blog, where there are literally hundreds of book reviews to view.  So pop over  and visit the lovely author, Susanna Leonard Hill’s blog and find the tab for Perfect Picture Books.    Her blog is full of resources links and activities associated with books reviewed by many authors



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After arriving earlier in the day to a rather wet Auckland , renowned Author/Illustrator Rosemary Wells in an informal get together spoke to our NZ SCBWI group at The Dorothy Butler Children’s Bookshop last night.to share her wisdom and tips on her craft.  Gathering around after refreshments many of our kiwi authors and illustrators also gave a show and tell of their books introducing Rosemary to NZ children’s literature.  She marvelled at the illustrations of many of the books on show.

I loved listening to Rosemary tell of how her ideas come to her. An example was a refrain she wrote in the car and then the next day she wrote the story.   Also her thoughts on how children’s literature is received.  It’s true much of NZ’s literature is specific to NZ and while people enjoy reading it, it is not so easily picked up by American publishers.   Rosemary’s advice on writing what you know,  and write universal themes will gain a wider readership outside NZ, leaving the NZ specific’s in the background.  When an idea strikes, for her the words come first before illustrations.  Without words there is no story.

We were very lucky to have Rosemary Wells chat with us, and we delighted in her advice and encouragement.  After two days in Auckland Rosemary and her daughter are off to New Plymouth and Christchurch to visit friends. 

Rosemary Wells is an American writer and illustrator of over 120 children’s books. She is well known for the Max & Ruby series  Noisy Nara, and Yoko.  She travels all over the States as a tireless advocate for literacy. She worked as an art director and designer before illustrating her first book. 


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THE DIAMOND & THE BOY: Thirteen Different Openings

I’m so proud to introduce the author of The Diamond and The Boy, Hannah Holt. A dear friend and critique buddy for the past seven years I have come to know Hannah never does things by halves. Many of you in the children’s writing world will know how dedicated she is to her writing, her resilience and perseverance, and attention to detail, much like the character in her debut picture book. But then I guess that should come as no surprise when THE BOY is her Grandfather – H Tracy Hall. Her first draft for this story was written in 2012 and the story is only just published this year. Hannah endured the parting of ways with two different agents before this book sold. During that time Hannah worked on about six picture books at a time. She wrote a dozen stories before starting this one and has worked on around a hundred different stories in between the first draft and publication of The Diamond and The Boy. She read journals, letters, newspaper articles and interviewed some of Tracy’s children. Dedicated to detail Hannah’s research was ongoing as the story kept changing and she needed more research with each revision. Hannah persevered into bringing this unique story to life. She would be the first to say it takes a long long time to get just the right voice or theme to make it so unique that finally your gut is telling you this is it. So often people think writing a Picture Book is easy. But really only the best ones get through, and this is how… Here Hannah shares the beginnings of THE DIAMOND AND THE BOY…


I tried many openings for The Diamond and the Boy before landing on just the right fit. The following shows a progression over time. Also I offer my insights on the development:

1) The first draft

In 1923, the city of Ogden, Utah hissed and whooshed with the… smelled of diesel smoke and dusty boxcars. Phonographs played leftover war-tunes from The War to End All Wars, and east of the tracks — living in a tent with a piano — was a boy named Tracy who needed to know how everything worked.

Too much description! This reads like a novel.

2) The first revision

(1923) The city of Ogden clacked and hissed with the whoosh of trains, and east of the tracks — living in a tent with a piano — was a boy named Tracy who wanted to know how everything worked.

Better but I’m still trying to cram too much information into my opening lines.

3) Starting with action

Tracy crawled into the air vent at the back of his classroom. It was dark as coal dust. Feet thudded outside. A whistle sounded. More rustling. Silence. School had ended and he wouldn’t have to go home with a bloody nose today.

Opening with action is good, but perhaps diving right into bloody noses isn’t desirable for my target audience.

4) The attempted prologue

Diamond are usually born in the hearts of mountains. Far below whispering peaks, rocks melt like butter in an oven. Crumbly stones are crushed, cooked, and changed into something stronger. Without the pressure, without the heat, a diamond could never be. Every carbon based thing ─ even peanut butter ─ has the potential to become diamond. The difference between jewels and a pencil is the amount of work put into it.

Maybe a prologue could work for a picture book, but it’s sort of an odd choice. Still this was probably the genesis of what became my side-by-side telling. This is the first time I started writing about the natural process of creating diamonds.

5) The fictionalized letters with Thomas Edison

Dear Mr. Edison,

I found a book about you in the library. Did you really invent all those things? You must have, or I suppose they wouldn’t write about it.

I want to be an inventor, too. Most of the time I practice on our kitchen table. Tonight Mother let me saw and drill on it while she made dinner. Wendell complained that his beans tasted like sawdust, but I thought they were fine.

Someday I want to have a big lab in New York like you. Did you invent anything today?


Tracy Hall

This version was never going to work. What if a child reading this book had thought the letters were real? Plus the text was humdrum. Even so, I’m starting to play with the format and testing the boundaries for what is possible.

6) Rhyming attempt #1

When Tracy Hall was two feet tall,

his mother built a chain link wall

around the yard to pen him in.

He scaled the fencing with a grin.

So bad. Maybe I could have found a way to write this story in rhyme, but the rhymes in this version are bland and forced.

7) Trying LIGHT as a theme

Tracy Hall liked shiny things. As a toddler he loved watching the streetcars near his home. He wanted to be near them. Really near them.

Chasing shining things as a theme fell flat. It was all sparkle and no substance.

8) Trying DARKNESS as a theme

Dark. Inside the air vent, it was coal black. Feet thudded nearby. A whistle blew. Then, silence. School was over.

This is a heavy revision of opening #3. Ultimately, it was too dark.

9) Changing the point of view to his mother

Tracy Hall cooed in his sleep. Momma shifted his hat and kissed him. For the last several months, she’d turned every spare scrap into baby clothes. Now she couldn’t stop smiling.

It wasn’t child-centered enough. Why would a child want to read this?

10) Rhyming attempt #2

In a tiny, tired town,

near the noisy streetcar tracks,

lived a dusty little boy,

peering through a fence’s cracks.

Nope, nope, nope! Okay, moving on…

11) Trying it from the point of view of myself

Diamonds. Tougher than a locomotive. More dazzling than glass. They stand for power and beauty.

But before a diamond is a diamond, it’s something else.

Although the opening lines don’t really show it, I go on to tell the story as myself in the first person. I talk about “my grandpa” and “my relationship” with him. It didn’t feel right inserting myself into the story.

12) The first side-by-side telling

Before a diamond is a diamond it’s something else. Maybe a stick. Some dirt. But usually it’s a gray lump deep inside the earth that’s never seen the sun.

Before Tracy Hall was a famous scientist, he worked at a lab and dreamed of building a machine to make diamonds. Other people told him, no. That wasn’t his job. Stick to the chemicals.

HERE IT IS! I finally found the right direction, but it’s too wordy.

13) The first side-by-side revision


named Graphite…


A BOY named Tracy…

I really simplify things in this opening! I have another dozen drafts after landing on these opening lines (fixing the plot and wording); however, after this the opening lines remain the same!

I asked Hannah if at any time did she feel like giving up and if so what made her keep going?

Hannah: Sure. I felt very discouraged at times. However, I realized there are no deadlines for success. I changed my mindset from “if I get published” to “when I’m published” and just settled in for the long ride. I’ve talked about one particularly hard challenge I had to overcome in this interview: https://writersrumpus.com/2018/10/16/interview-of-talented-author-hannah-holt/amp/

A shining light among the Kidlit community Hannah is often found on facebook in Kidlit411, 12×12, Sub It Club, and more.

Hannah Holt is a children’s author with an engineering degree. Her books, The Diamond and The Boy (2018, Balzer+Bray) and A Father’s Love (2019, Philomel) weave together her love of language and science. She lives in Oregon with her husband, four children, and a very patient cat named Zephyr. She and her family enjoy reading, hiking, and eating chocolate chip cookies. You can find her on Twitter and at her website: HannahHolt.com Although she no longer works in engineering she does love creating survey results for childrens’ writers on her blog.



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The Diamond and The Boy – by Hannah Holt – Book Review


Written by:   Hannah Holt

Illustrated by: Jay Fleck

Published by:  Balzer + Bray (October 2, 2018

Ages:   4 – 8 years

Theme: Pressure, Perseverance

Synopsis:  Told in a unique dual-narrative format, The Diamond and the Boy follows the stories of both natural diamond creation and the life of H. Tracy Hall, the inventor of a revolutionary diamond-making machine.

Why I like this: This is a gem of a book for young inventors or curious minds. On the left side is a story of a common gray rock called graphite. Through an intense trial of heat and pressure, it changes into one of the most valuable stones in the world. On the right side is the story of Tracy Hall a boy—born into poverty, bullied by peers, forced to work at an early age. However, through education and experimentation, he became one of the brightest innovators of the twentieth century, eventually building a revolutionary machine that makes diamonds.   Told in beautiful language the two stories tell of the pressure and perseverance of the lives of both rock and inventor. The bold illustrations are clear and a delight to the eye. The back matter is very informative. I’m sure this book will be a must have in schools and libraries everywhere.

What makes this book by debut author Hannah so unique is that H Tracy Hall is also her grandfather. Although Hannah at a young age was aware of her Grandfather’s inventive side through stories she had heard, it wasn’t until years later when the idea came to research and write his story.

Pop back in a couple of days when Hannah gives us a writers insight in how she came up with the unique dual-narrative format for The Diamond and The Boy. The struggles she faced getting that all important perfect beginning, voice and theme. You won’t want to miss it.

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“Perfect Picture Book” Friday

Love Enough for Two

Written and Illustrated by: Jane Chapman

Published by:  Little Tiger Press (January 12, 2017)

Ages:   3 – 6 years

Theme: sharing, sibling rivalry

Opening Lines: “Mo!” called Grandma one evening “I’ve got a lovely surprise down here!” “Hoo-hoo! A surprise!” thought Mo. “I wonder what it could be…” He fluttered down excitedly to find out.

Synopsis: Grandma has a surprise for Mo, a visit from his baby cousin Bibi. Bt Mo soon feels a little jealous. Why does Bibi get all the tickles and cuddles? And why won’t Grandma play Mo’s favourite game? Mo used to be Grandma’s special Owlet. Will there be room in her heart for two?

Why I like this: Apart from the obvious adorable cover, the full page illustrations in backdrops of blues and greens have you believing anyone could easily cuddle these whispy feathered creatures all day long. The expressions and sometimes hilarious active movements especially from Mo are a delight and bring the “awes…” Kids will relate to little Mo and the apprehension of a new sibling. Especially when in their eyes it looks like the new arrival is getting all the love and attention. I loved how Jane has ensured that no matter who ever comes along Grandma still has the same love she always had for little Mo. It’s in the Grandma gene! It’s a lovely read aloud for both kids and Grandmas.

Resources/Findings:   You can read an interview Jane gave on her work and process, on Joanna Maple’s Blog back in 2012…     http://joannamarple.com/2012/09/26/4341/

Here is her website which she shares with her Husband Tim Warnes also a Picture Book writer and illustrator. .. https://www.chapmanandwarnes.com/

Here is a website with some of Jane’s books and lots of fun teacher toolkits…   https://www.scholastic.com/teachers/authors/jane-chapman/

I’m always pleased to be able to bring you some more special books that have come my way and be able to share them with you and join other great writers over at Susanna’s Blog, where there are literally hundreds of book reviews to view.  So pop over  and visit the lovely author, Susanna Leonard Hill’s blog and find the tab for Perfect Picture Books.    Her blog is full of resources links and activities associated with books reviewed by many authors

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“Perfect Picture Book” – Friday

I’ve been slipping a bit lately in keeping up with book reviews.  However I have been busy looking through picture books at my local library and sometimes it just takes awhile to find the right story, something that connects, makes you feel and smile. Sends a message and makes you think of friends across oceans and reminds you of why you love doing what you do.

Sometimes You Fly

Written by: Newberry Medalist Katherine Applegate

Illustrated by: Jennifer Black Reinhardt

Published by: Clarion Books Boston New York April 2018

Ages:   4 – 7 years

Theme: Encouragement, Celebration

Opening Lines: “Before the cake…”

Synopsis: This gorgeous gift book, equally perfect for preschool graduations or college commencements, baby showers or birthdays, is an inspirational tribute to the universal struggles and achievements of childhood. Beginning with a first birthday, the scenes travel through childhood triumphs and milestones, coming full circle to graduation. A magical blend of succinct text and beautiful watercolors renders each moment with tenderness and humor and encourages readers to “remember that with every try, sometimes you fail . . . sometimes you fly.”

Why I like this: It is indeed a beautiful book. While there is barely a sentence on every second page of three or five words, the illustrations say so much more and then some.   For example, “Before the peas…” on a page showing a small baby in a highchair refusing to eat her peas turning her back and tipping the bowl off her highchair and a dog picking up the fallen peas. Turn the page and we see a very different picture. The chubby baby is smiling with peas in her hair, over her face and down her clothes and on the floor, and the dog licking his lips. With the spoon in its hand it is obvious that spoon feeding oneself has been accomplished and the love of peas is… well, a work in progress.   In “before the know…” a young girl is sitting at her desk book open and hands spread out. Her head is back with eyes closed and a pool of words spin above her. She is clearly overwhelmed. Turn the page and we find her in bed with an audience of soft toys around, her cat on the bed, and an overhead lamp turned on in the late night. She is enthralled in reading softly to her audience In the dark you can see a pile of books on the bedside table. Sure there are fails but there are also achievements. No success comes without trail and error, dedication and patience. When I first flipped through the book I thought of my dear friend and critique buddy Vivian. She is the embodiment of positivity, encouragement, and celebrating success not of herself but of others in our writing world and beyond. I smiled at the young girl practicing hitting a ball, and turn the page to see her jump with excitement at making the baseball team and the diverse children around her celebrating and cheering with her. That is Vivian! It’s amazing when you come across a book that says so much more than its words. It makes you feel, connect and smile. It makes you think of your own life and those around us we know and love. Who cheer when we succeed and lift us up when we trip and fall.  A writing life is like that.

Resources/Findings:   At eighty-eight words this is a great mentor text for such writing contests as Vivian Kirkfield’s “50 Precious Words” Contest which you can find on her Top Ranked Children’s Book Blog “Picture Books Help Kids Soar” every February. Or Susanna Hill’s Seasoned Writing contests like https://susannahill.com/2018/10/08/the-nina-the-pinta-and-the-guidelines-for-the-8th-annual-halloweensie-contest/     where a story is written in a 100 words or less.  Check these out.

Here is Katherine”s Blog and all you need to know about the author of this beautiful children’s book Sometimes You Fly… http://katherineapplegate.com/

Here also is the illustrators blog to see more beautiful illustrations etc…   https://jbreinhardt.com/

I’m always pleased to be able to bring you some more special books that have come my way and be able to share them with you and join other great writers over at Susanna’s Blog, where there are literally hundreds of book reviews to view.  So pop over  and visit the lovely author, Susanna Leonard Hill’s blog and find the tab for Perfect Picture Books.    Her blog is full of resources links and activities associated with books reviewed by many authors

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Whether it was the irresistibly warm spring day or that it was the first day of school holidays, there appeared to be only a small turnout at the Auckland SCBWI meeting on Saturday.  For whatever reason those of us who were there were treated to an interesting talk by Brian of his venture into illustrating picture books and the methods he used.

With screen clips and hardcopy examples of his illustrations and books Brian explained the various ways he may look to tackle a project, such as…

-points of view – from the sky, on the ground, cross view, shadowing to give the view of seeing through a leaf or material.

– situations/weather – using bubbled paper to help give the illusion of rain, streaks or splats to give depth.

-putting reader in the illustration – magnifying creatures and plants to give you the illusion for example, you are actually standing on the leaf or as a bee.

-finishing sentences – illustration shows what the text may have said if it had been completed.

-showing reader what the character can’t see – text implies one thing and the illustration shows another…

to name just a few.

As Brian often does full double spreads for his picture books it was important to ensure main details were kept away from the gutter (centre fold)  of the book.  He pointed out how lines etc  can be drawn to ensure that should some of it be swallowed by the gutter there is still enough to see what it is. And of course leaving room for text.

An award winning illustrator living in Auckland, Brian has painted most of his life and only recently moved to illustrating picture books such as Construction, Gecko, Flight of Honey Bee, The Rain Train, Roadworks and Demolition.  His first picture book, Road Works (written by Sally Sutton and published by Walker Books) won the 2009 New Zealand Post Book Award for Best Picture Book.  He likes bold imaginative perspectives and works mainly with watercolour.

Brian explained there are some restricted areas or compromises that have to be made in some areas when illustrating a book to be sold internationally, such as not showing a vehicle driving on the left or right side of the road, or text in speech bubbles becoming a problem when translation is involved or any text in illustrations.  There is also ethnic and gender balances and health and safety aspects within an illustration such as a playground although made of metal would need to show it as plastic and children to wear shoes etc.

It was an informative, relaxing afternoon  I always enjoy listening to illustrators explain their creative methods and visions for picture books. Such beautiful detailed work. Below are some of the books Brian has illustrated.

More info on Brian and his illustrations can be found on these links…




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“Perfect Picture Book” – Friday

Perfect Picture Book Friday’s is back, Yay!   So let’s start with a dreamy bedtime story for those cooler nights…

The Wishing Boat

Written by: Amanda Tarlau

Illustrated by: Chris Saunders

Published by:  Gosford, NSW : Scholastic Australia 2017

Ages:   3 – 6 years

Theme: dreams, imagination.

Opening Lines: In my little wishing boat, I cast off with the moonlit tide, unfurling sails to chase the wind and explore the oceans wide.

Synopsis: Drift along into a dream of adventure where anything is possible. A beautiful story about a young girl’s journey, through a dream world, with a playful rhyming text, and whimsical illustrations.

Why I like this: I love the rhyming sparse text. With rainbow fish that blows bubbles and others that play hide and seek among an underwater world of forests, caverns and castles we are easily lead into an adventure by a cute pixie faced little girl. While her wish to explore the oceans and discover new lands was brief there was sufficient action and drama to keep the reader interested. The full page illustrations are beautiful and whimsical.

Resources/Findings:   A lovely teachers resource from Scholastic…   https://resource.scholastic.com.au/resourceFiles/8434479_65554.pdf

I’m always pleased to be able to bring you some more special books that have come my way and be able to share them with you and join other great writers over at Susanna’s Blog, where there are literally hundreds of book reviews to view.  So pop over  and visit the lovely author, Susanna Leonard Hill’s blog and find the tab for Perfect Picture Books.    Her blog is full of resources links and activities associated with books reviewed by many authors


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Rice From Heaven

I am so excited to be holding this beautiful picture book, “Rice from Heaven” written by the lovely Tina Cho and illustrated by Keum Jin Song. It finally arrived down-under, New Zealand. I can’t believe it’s here. It is very special to me as I remember Tina telling me about her night adventure to help send rice over the North Korean border. I’ve been intrigued with the story from its beginning. It looks and smells soooo good.

Tina and I have been online friends and critique buddies for some years now, and as she lives in South Korea with her husband and two children, she is only 5 hours behind me, we often chat long after our American buddies have called it a night.

Late last year hubby and I stopped in South Korea to visit with Tina and her family as part of our Europe trip. We had a fabulous time and one of the highlights was when Tina took us to a lookout called the Odusan Unification Observatory in Paju, (north of Seoul) where we could view North Korea from a lookout. The vast forbidden stretch of land separated only by a narrow river where you could make out a few pale looking buildings seemed eerie and sad. One wondered what went on beyond the mountains in the distance. Tina’s story Rice from Heaven is a fitting tribute to the kindness and compassion that is needed in times of hardship.

Thanks, Diane, for having me. Most of you have heard how this story came to be. But just in case you haven’t, I’ll repeat briefly. Since moving to South Korea in 2010, I heard about the plight of North Korean refugees in churches. God gave me a heart for them. My colleague told me she was tutoring some refugees in English at a refugee church, and they were going to send rice in balloons over the border. I went along to help and knew I’d write something about it, which is how RICE FROM HEAVEN was born.

According to the Ministry of Unification in South Korea, there were 1,127 North Korean defectors to South Korea last year. So far this year, there have been 488 and the year isn’t over. And those numbers are only for South Korea, not Europe or the U.S. Even though things might appear rosy with leaders of countries meeting, the people are still under oppression. The children suffer.

I’m so glad, Diane, you could visit Korea and peek into the North, even though they put up a false front of appearances. We had a wonderful time together climbing a small mountain and eating together as well. I’d love to visit New Zealand sometime!

Diane asked me to share a rice recipe with you all. One popular food here is kimbap (keem-bop) which kinda looks like sushi. I’ve made it once, but it’s so cheap, it’s tastier to buy it, IMO.

Here’s the kimbap recipe from a popular Korean cooking blog I follow. Enjoy!


Thank you so much Tina.

Rice From Heaven is a beautiful lyrical story of courage and kindness.  There is a beautiful tribute on Tina’s blog to the children of Nth Korea and her book…   here  

How you can use Rice from Heaven in the classroom can be found on Tina’s Blog…   here

My dear friend, Tina has two more books coming out… Korean Celebrations (Tuttle 2019) and Breakfast with Jesus (Harvest House 2020)



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SCBWI NZ Professional Day

Warm, fun, friendly, informative, and often hilarious were words that came to mind as I drove home across the Harbour Bridge with the glistening water below and sun streaming through the windscreen. The threat of dark clouds approaching couldn’t dampen what had been a wonderful day of networking, meeting old and making new friends at our Auckland SCBWI Sunday meeting.

In a totally glass room at the Columbus Café on the North Shore, Frances Plumpton our very own Assistant Regional Advisor for SCBWI Aust East/NZ, introduced the incredible Susanne Gervay (Sydney Regional Advisor for SCBWI). Her warm infectious personality had my attention from the get-go. What a treat to hear Susanne’s bubbly views on SCBWI. There was lots of great information for new and not so new members in how to get the most out of their membership. Her experiences with her titles in both the Australian and US markets was an eye opener, not only in print numbers but the journey of her I am Jack books on school bullying, have been adapted into an acclaimed play by Monkey Baa Theatre, and toured Australian and US theatres and published in many countries.

In the Agents – “Love them or Leave them” session, Frances gave us an insight into life as a literary agency and answered important questions from Susanne that all writers should ask their agents before committing to that relationship

After a beautiful lunch we had the pleasure of Christine Dale Co-Director in NZ’s newest publisher of children’s books, One Tree House Ltd, which she established with Jenny Nagle in 2017. With over 30 years in the industry and previously the Publishing Manager at Scholastic NZ Ltd she has herself written and illustrated for children. Winning the Publisher of the Year (Oceania) at the Bologna Book Fair in April this year, Christine’s informative presentation was filled with need to know facts for not only illustrators but authors as well. As a writer it is always good to hear the illustrator’s side of the book making process.

Penny Scown, Senior Editor, Scholastic NZ for over thirty years and previously of Scholastic in the UK gave an interesting presentation on “beyond the contract” balancing working with many authors and illustrators.   Sally Sutton – series fiction and Maria Giles – nonfiction writers who are both clients of Penny’s also lent their views of working with an editor and showcased their books.

Did you know that some publishers may advertise a submissions open day on their Facebook page? Worth noting!

The meeting rounded up with a “Do’s and Don’ts of submissions” with Christine Dale, Penny Scown, Susanne Gervay and Frances Plumpton as the experts panel, discussing query letters, pitches etc.

During the meeting one noticed lots of note taking, hands raised, questions answered and heads nodded and lots of chatter and laughter, and the odd sparrow swooped in through slightly opened doors flitting from one strand of lights to another before darting back out. Last minute pictures, promise of meeting up at next year’s Sydney, Australia conference and the day was over all too quickly. Sign of an excellent meeting, I’d say!

It was really lovely meeting special people in person……


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